Chief Batchelor. Well, I don't know. The route was changed without my knowing it, really. When they decided to take Oswald in an automobile instead of the armored car.
Mr. Griffin. Who participated in that decision?
Chief Batchelor. Chief Curry, Chief Stevenson, Captain Fritz, I believe—I was not in there when it was discussed.
Mr. Griffin. After you talked to Fleming the second time what did you do?
Chief Batchelor. Then he said he would send them over, and we went down there to get the cars lined up. This must have been, oh, probably 10:45, 10:30 to 10:45. I went downstairs and I saw the basement well covered. We had a man at the top of the ramp on Main Street. We had several men in the basement leading into the garage area just before you get to the jail office, and I went through there, and Stevenson was with me.
Mr. Griffin. Let me interrupt you here, Chief. I think I will pull out another map so that we can mark it. I am going to mark this map, for the purpose of identification, "Dallas, Tex., Chief Batchelor, March 23, 1964, Deposition Exhibit 5001." Now I want you to use this exhibit, Chief, to indicate what you saw on this second trip downstairs, which you indicated would be what time?
Chief Batchelor. I came out of the elevator into the basement and saw a number of officers across this area right here. There were several detectives.
Mr. Griffin. Would you mark that with "X's"?
Chief Batchelor. [Marking.] Detective there. We walked through here. We noticed these cameras had been moved out.
Mr. Griffin. You are talking about the passageway past the jail office?