Mr. Griffin. Well, in connection with any of your duties, investigating duties with the police department, as opposed to traffic tickets? Let me ask you that question generally.

Mr. Beaty. Not that I ever recall. I can't think of anything specifically at all where I could say I had occasion to interrogate him about anything.

Mr. Griffin. What I am getting at is, was Jack Ruby ever treated by you as a person whom you might go to if you needed to find out about somebody?

Mr. Beaty. A confidant? No, sir; absolutely not.

Mr. Griffin. Do you know whether other people you worked with in the narcotics bureau might have attempted to use him?

Mr. Beaty. No, sir; I don't know.

Mr. Griffin. Were you familiar with any narcotics investigation that ever took place with respect to Jack Ruby?

Mr. Beaty. None.

Mr. Griffin. Now how often would you say that you saw Ruby during the last 3 years?

Mr. Beaty. Possibly, four, maybe five times.