Mr. Griffin. Now you all were aware that the TV cameras were going to be focusing on the car or the vehicle that Oswald was placed in, didn't you? The people in the downtown streets wouldn't be able to see that, but there were also newsmen down there who were broadcasting and they would be able to tell people listening in on the radio what car?
Chief Batchelor. You are arguing with me. I had nothing to do with moving the prisoner.
Mr. Griffin. I didn't mean to argue with you, chief.
Chief Batchelor. I didn't make the decision and I don't know whether it was wise or not. It is a moot question now.
Mr. Griffin. Well, now, what next happened after you talked with Chief Stevenson about this change in plan?
Chief Batchelor. This happened when he told me about it, just moments before they actually brought him down, and he told me they were bringing a car up on the ramp, two cars up on the ramp, one to carry the prisoner and one to carry the detectives.
Mr. Griffin. Let me go back one bit here. You stated that you came down. This one time you are talking about was an episode where you went through the armored car, and this would have been your third trip downstairs?
Chief Batchelor. And my last one.
Mr. Griffin. And your last one. Now the first trip that you came down the stairs was when you saw these reserve officers over by the elevators?
Chief Batchelor. Actually, that was the second trip down, I believe.