Mr. Griffin. Were there people standing up above the TV cameras, if you recall?

Mr. Beaty. I don't know what they would stand on. There is nothing for them to stand on unless they had a box or something like that.

Mr. Griffin. Now, how did the congestion in this area that you have indicated by a half circle which runs from about the position of the TV camera close to the Main Street side, to about the middle of the entrance to the garage, how did the congestion in that area compare to the congestion along the Main Street ramp or across the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Beaty. The best I remember, most of the people that moved out of this area moved into this area here. Then they moved over here. It looked like there might have been as many here, or more, as there were over here. There must have been a hundred all together all scattered out all in the basement, and they wouldn't stay still. They would mill around as long as they didn't get past this line here, and we weren't too concerned with them, because they had uniform officers out here in the basement and they brought those down earlier and shook down all the cars a time or two, and I don't know what was going on out here.

Mr. Griffin. Now, how many uniformed officers did you see stationed back here in the basement area?

Mr. Beaty. Earlier?

Mr. Griffin. No; at the time Oswald came out.

Mr. Beaty. I didn't see any.

Mr. Griffin. Is it possible that there might not have been officers there?

Mr. Beaty. No; there were some earlier, about 50.