Mr. Griffin. About when was that? For how long before Oswald came out, would you estimate?
Mr. Croy. Well, I couldn't really estimate, because it has been almost 4 months ago and I don't really know how long it was.
Mr. Griffin. Well, when you took up your position at the base of the ramp, had the armored car arrived?
Mr. Croy. Yes.
Mr. Griffin. The armored car was already there? You weren't there at any time when the armored car was not there?
Mr. Croy. No.
Mr. Griffin. All right. Can you give us any statement of how long you were there? Were you there for 2 minutes prior to the time Oswald came down?
Mr. Croy. I was longer than that.
Mr. Griffin. Were you there 15 minutes?
Mr. Croy. I couldn't say. I don't remember whether I was.