Mr. Croy. She told me that she saw Tippit get out of the car, and I don't recall, I think she said he stepped back a couple of foot and shot him and then ran. She was pretty hysterical at that particular time.

Mr. Griffin. Did she tell you where she first saw Oswald?

Mr. Croy. I don't recall whether she did or not. There was, as I recall, there was 2 people who saw it. No; 3. A man in a, taxicab driver. However, she was the main eyewitness, as far as I could make out. She saw the actual shooting.

Mr. Griffin. How long did you talk with her?

Mr. Croy. Oh, a good 5 or 10 minutes.

Mr. Griffin. Were there any other officers there with you when you were talking with her?

Mr. Croy. Yes; and no. I talked to her, and then they talked to her, and then I talked to her, and just after I located a witness, the squad did get there.

Mr. Griffin. This conversation all took place near the scene of the Tippit killing?

Mr. Croy. Leaning up against his car.

Mr. Griffin. Now, as you and the other officers talked with her, did she tell you where she was that she first saw Oswald?