Mr. Croy. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. What did he tell you that he saw Oswald do walking up the street?

Mr. Croy. He just said he saw him walking up the street, and this other lady said that, I believe it was, that Tippit had stopped him and called him over to the car, and he came around to the driver's side, because Tippit was by himself.

Mr. Griffin. Oswald came around?

Mr. Croy. To the driver's side of the car.

Mr. Griffin. This is the lady that said that?

Mr. Croy. The lady said that, and she said, I think she said, he stuck his head in the car and they talked, and he stepped back a couple or 3 feet, and Tippit opened the door to get out, and when he got out, Oswald pulled the pistol out and shot him.

Mr. Griffin. This is a lady? The man or the lady that said this?

Mr. Croy. The lady.

Mr. Griffin. Now, what did the man who was walking, who saw Oswald walking up the street, tell you?