Mr. Griffin. Did you know Jack Ruby before the time he shot Lee Oswald?

Mr. Cutchshaw. I had seen him one time before.

Mr. Griffin. Where was that?

Mr. Cutchshaw. At the Carousel on Commerce.

Mr. Griffin. How did you happen to see him?

Mr. Cutchshaw. I went up in his place one night.

Mr. Griffin. How long was that before he shot Oswald?

Mr. Cutchshaw. That's been about 2½ years ago, the first time I saw him.

Mr. Griffin. I am going to mark for the purpose of identification a copy of an interview report prepared by FBI Agents Mabey and Hughes, purporting to report an interview they had with you on December 2, 1963. I am marking this "Dallas, Tex., Detective Cutchshaw, 3-26-64, Exhibit 5042." I have marked for identification the interview report of December 2, 1963, by Mabey and Hughes as Exhibit 5042. I have marked what purports to be a copy of a letter signed by you to Chief Curry, dated November 24, 1963, as Exhibit 5043. And I have marked as Exhibit 5044 a copy of a report by FBI Agent James W. Bookhout, relating to an interview that Bookhout had with you on November 24th. That is Exhibit 5044. Now, have you had a chance to look over these two interview reports and a copy of your letter?

Mr. Cutchshaw. Right.