Mr. Cutchshaw. The last position I saw it in was about in here [indicating].

Mr. Griffin. How long before Oswald came down did that TV camera come out through the double doors and go down to the spot that you have marked in the entrance to the garage?

Mr. Cutchshaw. Oh, about 2 or 3 minutes. Just prior to when they were coming down. It is when they were coming down. It is when they came through the door.

Mr. Griffin. Now, at any time while you were down there, was there a TV camera along the wall that Lowery was on?

Mr. Cutchshaw. This one right here that came through here, and Lowery was standing right here.

Mr. Griffin. Put an "L" where Lowery was.

Mr. Cutchshaw. And they came through right down by him, down this ramp here.

Mr. Griffin. Was there ever a TV camera stationed there?

Mr. Cutchshaw. Not that I remember; no.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall if the TV camera which you saw go out into the garage area, came down through the public elevators, or through the jail office elevators?