Mr. Griffin. Was this the triple railroad overpass at the base of Elm Street?
Chief Batchelor. Yes; they would have just gone under, or would have gone under momentarily had he not been shot.
There were a number of railroad track workers on this overpass, and we had officers up there, but they considered them to be authorized personnel because they worked for the railroad, and they were all lined along there watching for the parade which never did go under them.
Mr. Griffin. How many persons do you remember having been up there?
Chief Batchelor. I was not there. I heard about it. I understand there were probably 10 or 12 people up there. But actually, there should be nobody over the immediate route the President goes under. But there are certainly, there seems to me, certain generally accepted procedures that, and certain general types of security that every police department ought to be aware of, that is standard operating procedure, plus whatever specific thing that the various circumstances might want done; some sort of suggested procedure on their part, with it published, that might be helpful to police organizations.
Mr. Griffin. I want to go off the record here a moment.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Griffin. Let's go on the record on this.
We have been speaking off the record about other suggestions which Chief Batchelor has, and one of the things that he has pointed out is that there is not enough advance notice of what the Presidential route is going to be to enable the police department to satisfactorily handle the administrative problems of selecting people to place them at particular intersections.
Do you want to add any more to that statement that I have made of what you have just told me?