And I said, "I don't remember anybody, but I do remember seeing three men on the camera." And, Lowery said the same thing, that he did remember seeing the three men. But I don't remember anybody coming from here to the camera.
Mr. Griffin. Let's go ahead now, sir. When you were up there filling out your report in the homicide office—when you talked with these men that you finally detained after the shooting, the two men that you detained, did you describe to them the third man that was with them?
Mr. Cutchshaw. No.
Mr. Griffin. When you asked them where is the third man and he said there wasn't, what did they say?
Mr. Cutchshaw. They just told me that there wasn't any, that if there was a third man there, they didn't know about it.
Mr. Griffin. Was anybody else standing with you at the time they said that?
Mr. Cutchshaw. I believe Officer Lowery was there at that time. But the first thing, I went right out there and got a hold of both of them and asked them, "Where is the other man that came out with them." And he said, "There wasn't any other man." And I said, "I know there were three men with you when you came out." And he said, "If there was one between us, they don't know nothing about it." And I don't remember whether Officer Lowery was there, but I don't think he was there, but we did question them again, and I still think there was a third man.
Mr. Griffin. How about Officer Swain, did he make that denial to Swain?
Mr. Cutchshaw. I don't really know, because that is when I left and had to go up to the first floor. Lowery started getting their names and they talked to Lieutenant Swain and told them what it was, and he said, "Go ahead and get their names and ask where they are going to be."
Mr. Griffin. Who was it that came up to you and told you that he had found out, had an explanation for the third man.