Mr. Daniels. No.

Mr. Hubert. How many people were in the area you were in—this area that we have marked No. 3?

Mr. Daniels. Well, now, at different times there was as high as four or five—some of them would come by and stop and then go on.

Mr. Hubert. Yes.

Mr. Daniels. Let me see—about that.

Mr. Hubert. Even though there were some people on the other side of the ramp?

Mr. Daniels. Yes; there was three or four on the other side.

Mr. Hubert. How long before Oswald was shot, and I think you did hear the shot?

Mr. Daniels. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. How long before Oswald was shot did you get to position No. 1?