Mr. Hubert. He went right on through?
Mr. Daniels. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know how long that was before the shot was fired?
Mr. Daniels. 3 or 4 minutes, I guess.
Mr. Hubert. But what you say is confusing you is as to whether or not that was after the Rio Pierce car came out?
Mr. Daniels. I'm not sure—I can't place one before the other—if I had to guess at it, I would say it was before.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, you think now that you saw the man go down past Vaughn before the Rio Pierce car came?
Mr. Daniels. Right.
Mr. Hubert. Is that correct?