Mr. Griffin. All right.

Mr. Harrison. In trying to get out of line of those cameras.

Mr. Griffin. Now, do you remember, as you looked over there, whether you had any difficulty in seeing people over in that area?

Mr. Harrison. There wasn't anyone in here.

Mr. Griffin. In front of the cameras?

Mr. Harrison. No; there was no one in front of the cameras.

Mr. Griffin. What would you say would be the total number of people, including newspaper people and police officers, who were strung from the northwest corner over toward the cameras at the time Oswald came out?

Mr. Harrison. I would say maybe eight or nine.

Mr. Griffin. All right, now. How long did you remain up there by those elevators?

Mr. Harrison. Well, it was, I imagine, 45 minutes.