Mr. Hubert. Now, do you remember that during the time that you were out at Parkland Hospital another reserve officer approached you and stated that he had seen the man who shot Oswald coming down the ramp?
Mr. Holly. No; he didn't approach me, because I approached him. I went over to find where I could get some water. I was stationed where the entrance is where the Governor was, and he told me there was some coffee and water if I wanted, and I went in and when I came back I struck up a conversation with the man, and we were talking about——
Mr. Hubert. Was he a reserve officer?
Mr. Holly. Yes; he was a reserve. And in the conversation he said that he either knew or he saw Ruby down in the city hall, knew of him getting down in there.
Mr. Hubert. Was he speaking, from what you could tell, of Ruby being down in there on the morning that Oswald was assassinated?
Mr. Holly. Yes. I asked him—the conversation went like, well, how in the world could they ever let him in. Everybody knew him, which most reserves do know him.
Mr. Hubert. You knew him?
Mr. Holly. Oh, yes; I knew him. I did business with him. And I would know him if I saw him. But I wasn't stationed down there, so therefore, I don't know.
And he said he saw him down there, or did see of him, or he in someway, one of the reserves had let him in, and he had a lapel pass on.
Mr. Hubert. Now, do you know who he was, this reserve?