Mr. Lowery. Pierce was the unmarked car, and he had another officer in the car. I couldn't tell you who, or how many, or who they were.
Mr. Hubert. What was the time interval between the O'Dell car movements up that ramp and Pierce's movements up that ramp?
Mr. Lowery. I couldn't—I couldn't—I'd be afraid to say exactly, but probably wasn't more than a minute in that.
Mr. Hubert. Did you follow the car, or the Pierce car up the ramp with your eyes, I mean?
Mr. Lowery. No, sir; if you will notice this [indicating] there is an offset here, and from my position here I would only see a short distance up the ramp, and there is also a drop down, air-conditioning and central-heating unit back in here that I would—if my view hadn't been obstructed by the line of people on that side I wouldn't have been able to see more than a few feet up the ramp.
Mr. Hubert. Did you see anybody coming down? I understand from your statement that you could not have seen their faces as they came down the ramp because of the obstruction, but you could have seen feet, couldn't you?
Mr. Lowery. I wouldn't be able to. I didn't see anybody come down the ramp. They could have possibly gotten down there without me seeing them, but I didn't see any feet, or any person come down the ramp at all.
Mr. Hubert. Did you see anybody climb over the rails from the parking area into the ramp on the Main Street side?
Mr. Lowery. No, sir; not that I remember. I couldn't see—couldn't see the rail from my position for the line of photographers and officers and the TV cameras and lights.
Mr. Hubert. Did you have occasion to talk to Ruby thereafter?