Mr. Hubert. That is to say, there is gauze in front of the prisoners, so that the audience can see them, but the prisoners can't look out. And there are markings on it as to height and their numbers?

Mr. Curry. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. That's the room we are talking about?

Mr. Curry. Yes, that's the room he was taken to. He was not put on the stage, he was just put in front of the stage for the showup.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, he was not put behind the gauze?

Mr. Curry. Not this time, I think he was on previous occasions.

Mr. Hubert. Yes; when there was a real lineup for identification?

Mr. Curry. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. But this was not an identification lineup?

Mr. Curry. No; it was the news media clamoring to see him, and they wanted to know when they could look at him or when they could observe him, and on the third floor when he was brought to and from the interrogation room, which was Captain Fritz' office, they had to go about 20 or 25 feet, and they almost mobbed him every time they would bring him through.