Mr. Hubert. Your present memory doesn't associate the man you now know as Jack Ruby with being in that room?
Mr. Curry. That's right.
Mr. Hubert. Now, can you tell us why Oswald was moved for the purpose of charging him in the case of Tippit, and subsequently in the case of the President?
Mr. Curry. I don't know in the case of Tippit. I wasn't there. I mean, I wasn't present when he was charged, but he was charged with the murder of the President—he was charged in the lobby of the identification bureau, which is on the fourth floor of the police department, and he was brought out of the jail into the identification bureau and the charge was read to him by Judge David Johnston.
Mr. Hubert. What I am trying to get at is what security measures were observed with reference to him during the time that he was moved through these crowds of people?
Mr. Curry. Officers surrounded him. We had officers in front and in the back and by the side of him as he was moving—usually two detectives, two or three uniformed officers, when he moved through the crowds.
Mr. Hubert. I understand you said that there was a huge crowd on the third floor?
Mr. Curry. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And I would take it that there was a rather large crowd in the assembly room?
Mr. Curry. Yes; there were several—a good many there.