Mr. Armstrong. A couple of times, I believe, I have heard him threaten to throw even a girl down the stairs.

Mr. Hubert. Well, you distinctly remember the incident about the girl, don’t you?

Mr. Armstrong. Well, the one I remember was Diane.

Mr. Hubert. What happened about that?

Mr. Armstrong. Well, Jack always said that Diane bugged him and I said we couldn’t afford to lose her because she was a good waitress—she made the club money and I would say he had told Diane that she had 2 weeks’ notice every other night for a whole year—they just didn’t get along.

Mr. Hubert. Well, get to the point about threatening to throw her downstairs.

Mr. Armstrong. Well, he had threatened to throw her down the stairs for some reason or other—I don’t recall.

Mr. Hubert. Did he start to do it?

Mr. Armstrong. He never put his hands on her—he didn’t touch her.

Mr. Hubert. You never saw him put anybody out by the stair route?