Asked me did I know him, I said, “Yes; I used to have a district for about 4 years out there.”

Mr. Griffin. Did you feel that if you would talk to Ruby, that Ruby might have been willing to give you any information?

Mr. Montgomery. No; because Ruby and I, first of all, weren’t that close or anything. As a matter of fact, I don’t guess he even remembers my name or face, either.

Mr. Griffin. Uh-huh.

Mr. Montgomery. But he was used to seeing officers come in his place. I don’t imagine he would remember one any more than others—another.

Mr. Griffin. Did any of the officers up there at the jail cell with Ruby when you went up there to get him come down on the elevator with you?

Mr. Montgomery. I believe Hall, FBI Agent Hall.

Mr. Griffin. And did Hall go into Captain Fritz’ office?

Mr. Montgomery. Now, our Detective Hall rather than Agent Hall did. I just don’t know, because I couldn’t say for sure.

Mr. Griffin. Who do you remember being in Fritz’ office the first time, or—on this occasion when Ruby was brought down by you?