Mr. Hubert. When did you hear from Jack, after the shooting of the President?

Mr. Armstrong. Oh, I would say about 15 or 20 minutes.

Mr. Hubert. After you first heard about it?

Mr. Armstrong. After I first heard about it.

Mr. Hubert. How did you hear from him?

Mr. Armstrong. On the telephone.

Mr. Hubert. What did he say?

Mr. Armstrong. He just said, “Did you hear?” and I said, “Yes.” He said, “Ain’t it terrible?” “It’s a shame.” Just like that—real sadlike.

Mr. Hubert. That was before the President had died?

Mr. Armstrong. That was before the President had died.