Mr. Montgomery. Not that day. I don’t believe Archer was in our office. I know Harrison and Cutchshaw and Lowery were in there, and McMillon was upstairs with Archer, because I remember now in the scuffle down here in apprehending Jack Ruby, McMillon lost his hat, and, of course, I thought it was Ruby’s hat, so, I was hanging onto it, you know, and on the way to Parkland I looked inside and T. D. McMillon’s initials were in it, so, upon our arrival back from Parkland Hospital to the office, I went down to McMillon’s office and left his hat.
Mr. Griffin. Did you talk with Harrison at all about how Ruby got in, Blackie Harrison?
Mr. Montgomery. I don’t believe I did.
Mr. Griffin. Did you talk with Lowery at all about it?
Mr. Montgomery. Well, like I say, we were all back there in that squad room, and somebody said, “How did he get down there?” And I don’t know who said—well, I don’t know.
Mr. Griffin. Didn’t Lowery say at that point that he thought Ruby pushed a TV camera in?
Mr. Montgomery. I couldn’t swear that he did or didn’t.
Mr. Griffin. How long did you, Cutchshaw, Lowery, and Harrison remain in the homicide office?
Mr. Montgomery. Didn’t stay there but just a few minutes. I know when we left they were in there writing out a report of some kind. Didn’t even ask them what they was writing. Sitting there writing something. Anyway, after I talked to them just as—just a second, I went back to where Captain Fritz was, and that was when they sent us back upstairs to get Ruby.
Mr. Griffin. Hall, Harrison, Cutchshaw and Lowery are all from the juvenile bureau?