Mr. Hubert. That was Vincent, you say?

Mr. Armstrong. Yes; Sal Vincent.

Mr. Hubert. Then he left, you mean, in the last part of September?

Mr. Armstrong. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. He was there about 3 weeks?

Mr. Armstrong. About 3 weeks.

Mr. Hubert. And Wally Weston had been there before him?

Mr. Armstrong. Right.

Mr. Hubert. How long had Weston been there?

Mr. Armstrong. Wally had been there since about June 1062.