Mr. Hubert. Do you know what kind of business he was discussing with the man you have named as Mike Ryan?
Mr. Armstrong. A private club.
Mr. Hubert. You heard such a conversation?
Mr. Armstrong. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. You mean another private club in addition to the Carousel?
Mr. Armstrong. Well, the Carousel wasn’t a private club.
Mr. Hubert. Oh, I see; so in other words, the thought was to open a private club?
Mr. Armstrong. Just talk though.
Mr. Hubert. And talk is all you would know about?
Mr. Armstrong. Yes. I mean—it was just one of Jack’s wild ideas, that’s all.