Mr. Griffin. Now, when you got downstairs, where did you go?

Mr. McMillon. From the—I got off of the elevator and walked straight through two swinging doors and just outside of the jail office.

Mr. Griffin. So you were between the swinging doors and the ramp?

Mr. McMillon. Right.

Mr. Griffin. Now, were all of the police officers sort of out there waiting or were they spread out on both sides of those swinging doors?

Mr. McMillon. Well, we later had spread out on both sides of the doors.

Mr. Griffin. Well, at the time that you came down, was there a general meeting held outside of the swinging doors?

Mr. McMillon. There seemed to be to me, and a few minutes later, Captain Jones told us what he wanted done.

Mr. Griffin. I see. But when you congregated outside of those swinging doors, it was everybody sort of milling around, nobody giving instructions?

Mr. McMillon. It was right at first.