Mr. Crafard. Mostly the conversation had to do with a twistboard exerciser that Ruby was trying to promote.
Mr. Hubert. Well, go ahead.
Mr. Crafard. And he was there for about a half, 45 minutes that evening, and it was 2 or 3 days later before I saw him again.
Mr. Hubert. Before you go on, would you tell us how long after you joined the fair did you first see this man Ruby?
Mr. Crafard. About 2 or 3 days, about 2 days after I joined the fair.
Mr. Hubert. That would be about 2 days after the fair opened.
Mr. Crafard. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And the second time you saw him was about 3 days after that?
Mr. Crafard. I believe so, yes.
Mr. Hubert. What was the occasion of seeing him the second time?