Mr. Hubert. You never heard them conversing?
Mr. Crafard. When Jack was talking to somebody I pretty much made it a habit to step back where I couldn’t hear the conversation.
Mr. Hubert. Why did you do that?
Mr. Crafard. I have done that every since I can recall. When I was younger I worked for a fellow and he started talking to somebody and I would stay right there and he got kind of angry a couple of times; so, since then, I have made it a habit to step back where I can’t hear the conversation that is being held.
Mr. Griffin. Did you ever hear from Andy Armstrong or anybody else anything about either of these two men?
Mr. Crafard. Not that I can recall.
Mr. Hubert. What makes the visit of these two men a part of your memory now?
Mr. Crafard. Just that it was shortly before he had the dogs brought back to him, and he asked me to make arrangements to ship them to California. I believe they were from Los Angeles.
Mr. Hubert. In other words, the fact that you were making preparations to ship the dogs to California, and that they were from California, is the fact that causes you to associate the two, and to remember those two men?
Mr. Crafard. Yes, sir.