Mr. Hubert. And you say Jack told you he had an interest in it?

Mr. Crafard. Jack said they were associated. He called him his partner all the time.

Mr. Hubert. Did the man come on particular days of the week or just at random?

Mr. Crafard. No. Never knew when he was going to come.

Mr. Hubert. Did you ever see Jack give him any money?

Mr. Crafard. Not that I recall.

Mr. Hubert. Is it correct to state then that all you know about whether Paul was or was not an associate is what Jack told you?

Mr. Crafard. That is right.

Mr. Hubert. You observed nothing of your own that would indicate that the man had some property interest in that club or some financial interest?

Mr. Crafard. Other than the fact that when he did come Jack and him would go into the office, almost every time he would come they would be in the office, from a half hour to 2 or 3 hours at a time talking.