Mr. Griffin. Did you ever see Jack and Ralph Paul go over any books together?
Mr. Crafard. No. I just says whenever they was together like that they would be together in the office, the office door would be locked and they would do talking. It was usually during when—during the evening when the club was in operation and I would be out front.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know Eva Grant?
Mr. Crafard. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Who is she?
Mr. Crafard. She was Jack Ruby’s sister.
Mr. Hubert. How did you come to meet her?
Mr. Crafard. I first met her at the fairgrounds, Jack first introduced me at the fairgrounds and then later I met her at the club.
Mr. Hubert. How often did you see her?
Mr. Crafard. I believe I saw Eva about four times.