Mr. Hubert. How long did he stay?

Mr. Crafard. I think he was there yet when the club was closed, I believe.

Mr. Hubert. What sort of a fellow was he?

Mr. Crafard. He was kind of an easygoing guy. Like most of your real good comedians, he was cracking a joke all the time.

Mr. Hubert. Well, I gather from what you have told us about your life you can size these people up pretty well.

Mr. Crafard. I haven’t only been wrong with my opinion once. I formed an opinion of a person with the first six or seven words they say and I have never been wrong in my life but once.

Mr. Hubert. What do you think of Bill DeMar as to his truthfulness?

Mr. Crafard. He was a kind of a likable guy but to me he just didn’t strike me, I didn’t like him. I got along with him, I associated with him at the club but I wouldn’t want to associate with him as a close friend.

Mr. Hubert. What was there about him——

Mr. Crafard. He didn’t strike me just right.