Mr. Griffin. Is Norma the girl you dated or saw quite a bit of?
Mr. Crafard. I saw her on two or three occasions before this other girl went to work for Jack.
Mr. Griffin. And Norma is not a native of Dallas?
Mr. Crafard. She is a native of the Dallas area. Her home is about 20 miles north of Dallas, Carrollton, Tex.
Mr. Hubert. Did you ever go out there?
Mr. Crafard. No; I never went out there.
Mr. Hubert. How did you know it was out there? How did you find out?
Mr. Crafard. She give me her address, address and phone number.
Mr. Griffin. Did you have that in the book you maintained for Jack?
Mr. Crafard. That was the reason for getting the phone and address. She called and inquired for a job, and I got her address and phone number which I do with all girls who come for a job.