Mr. Griffin. What would be getting out of hand in that situation, would it be simply Jack wanting to go to bed with her or would it be some unusual kind of sexual relations?

Mr. Crafard. No; I would say wanting to go to bed with her as far as my knowledge. From what I knew of Norma she was a pretty decent girl. She was a little wild but she was a fairly decent girl.

Mr. Griffin. How old a girl would you say she was?

Mr. Crafard. I believe Norma was 18. She was a very friendly person, easy to like.

Mr. Hubert. Did you have a girl who worked at the Eatwell Restaurant that you dated?

Mr. Crafard. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert. But you did go to the Eatwell Restaurant on Main Street, I think it was?

Mr. Crafard. It was on Commerce.

Mr. Hubert. Commerce.

Mr. Crafard. I went there most of the time for my meals. It was, meals were cheap, nice place to go to, it was close, and I sat around there and joked with the girls and the one guy who worked in there I got acquainted with him a little bit.