Mr. Griffin. Did Jack tell any jokes himself?

Mr. Crafard. I don’t recall of any. I think a couple of times he got on the stage and tried to M.C. and fell sort of flat.

Mr. Griffin. How about privately; was Jack the kind of person who would joke and tell jokes?

Mr. Crafard. He never did that I know of.

Mr. Griffin. Was Jack the kind of person who would sit around with the comedians and talk with them in between acts and so forth?

Mr. Crafard. No; Jack was the kind that the only time he would say anything to the comedians was if he done something he didn’t like, and if Jack wanted the comedian to do something he would say something to him.

Mr. Hubert. Did you ever notice any traits of physical violence in Ruby?

Mr. Crafard. The one time I noticed any traits of physical violence at all, there was a guy came to the club who was pretty well polluted, and I think Ralph Paul was sitting right near the door, and he started giving the doorman a bad time.

Mr. Hubert. Who started——

Mr. Crafard. This drunk fellow did.