Mr. Crafard. I believe it was about 3 or 4 weeks before he came to Dallas. It was advertised in the paper.

Mr. Hubert. Were you working for Ruby at that time?

Mr. Crafard. Yes, sir; it came out in the papers that showed the proposed route and the proposed secondary route of this trip through the city.

Mr. Hubert. Are you saying that the first time you found out that he, President Kennedy, was going to visit the city, was when you read it in the newspapers?

Mr. Crafard. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. And that in that account that you read in the newspapers, the proposed route and an alternate route was given?

Mr. Crafard. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. That would have been just a very few days before he actually came, wouldn’t it?

Mr. Crafard. I believe that was at least a week before he came that that came out.

Mr. Hubert. At any rate, whatever day the proposed route came out in the papers that was the first day that you found out that the President was coming to Dallas at all?