Mr. Hubert. You see you have to get that impression from him in one of two ways. Either he said something or he did things, and that is what I want to find out, what he said or he did that creates an impression that now remains in your mind as being one of more shock than anybody else, and as you put it, extreme nervousness. You don’t get that impression except what you saw or you heard.

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. Now that is what I want to find out, because it is one thing to have your impression but it is another thing to have what caused your impression.

Mr. Crafard. Yes. He couldn’t believe it had happened.

Mr. Hubert. He said so?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. What else did he do that was out of the ordinary?

Mr. Crafard. I was trying to think.

Mr. Hubert. Did he cry? You said a moment ago he did not.

Mr. Crafard. He said it was an outrageous crime, that it would ruin the city of Dallas.