Andy and I both, I believe it was myself that made the statement that the guy, whoever had done that, had ought to hang, or something to that effect, and we was all pretty much in agreement on that subject. Our agreement on that was about the same.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, in this conference, I call it conference, I mean meeting that you and Andy and Jack had together, which commenced about 2 hours after the President’s assassination, you discussed the fact that it was a terrible crime, that it would hurt the city and the nightclub business and that the man who did it ought to be punished?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. And Jack was a part of that?

Mr. Crafard. Yes; we was all pretty much in agreement on that. We agreed to the fact it would——

Mr. Hubert. Did you know at that time who had done it or who was suspected of having done it?

Mr. Crafard. I believe that earlier on the news, or something, I believe they suspected Oswald.

Mr. Hubert. Had he been mentioned by name?

Mr. Crafard. I believe he had; yes.

Mr. Hubert. That was prior to the time Ruby came in?