Mr. Crafard. I had been across that route previously and knew.

Mr. Hubert. Hitchhiking?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. How long before?

Mr. Crafard. My wife and I left Dallas in 1963. We went up 77 to 66.

Mr. Hubert. But you weren’t hitchhiking then, were you?

Mr. Crafard. Yes; we hitchhiked. She wouldn’t take the bus. I had money for her to take the bus with her and the kids, and she refused to do so.

Mr. Hubert. You told us earlier you had gone by bus.

Mr. Crafard. We went part way by bus.

Mr. Hubert. Which part did you go by bus?