Mr. Crafard. He picked me up about between 12:30 and a quarter to 1.

Mr. Hubert. Do you remember the town it was in?

Mr. Crafard. It was one of the big towns there, if I can think of it.

Mr. Hubert. Tulsa, Oklahoma City?

Mr. Crafard. Oklahoma City, I think it was.

Mr. Hubert. You rode in the back?

Mr. Crafard. I rode in the front seat with them. They were driving the car.

Mr. Hubert. What?

Mr. Crafard. I rode in the front seat with them.

Mr. Hubert. The three of you in the front?