Mr. Crafard. I believe he was in his late twenties.

Mr. Hubert. Now, what about the automobile?

Mr. Crafard. It seems to me like it was a red and white Chevy.

Mr. Hubert. You say you were with that person and in that automobile about 7 or 8 hours clean into Chicago. So you had a lot of opportunity to observe such things as who you were riding with.

Mr. Crafard. It has been quite a while back, too.

Mr. Hubert. Is it your memory that you now say he was a man in his late twenties; about 29?

Mr. Crafard. I would say in his late twenties.

Mr. Hubert. And that you don’t remember the type of car?

Mr. Crafard. I believe it was a Chevy.

Mr. Hubert. You don’t remember the State license plate?