Mr. Hubert. With these several rides around Chicago, bypassing it, how long did it take you to get around Chicago?
Mr. Crafard. Probably 2 or 3 hours.
Mr. Hubert. And these were all short ones?
Mr. Crafard. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. Do you recall your next long one that really took you out of Chicago good?
Mr. Crafard. I believe I had a ride carried me over to Lansing.
Mr. Hubert. What distance is that from Chicago?
Mr. Crafard. I’m not sure of the exact distance.
Mr. Hubert. What time did that man pick you up, a woman, or whoever it was?
Mr. Crafard. It was a man. It must have been getting on toward night; it must have been.