Mr. Crafard. About an hour, hour and a half, something like that.
Mr. Griffin. And at that time the cars were not running, the transit, the public transportation was not running, or were you out of money at that time?
Mr. Crafard. I still had money I have to eat on.
Mr. Griffin. Lansing is how far from Clare?
Mr. Crafard. Lansing isn’t over, I don’t believe it is over 225 miles from Clare to Lansing.
Mr. Hubert. It may be that you are making a mistake, Larry. Let’s see if we can’t refresh your memory from the time you got that last long hitch that took you to Mount Pleasant because you remember getting to Mount Pleasant at night, about 8:30.
Mr. Crafard. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. And that, you say, is a run of what—about 5 hours, 6 hours?
Mr. Crafard. I don’t believe it would take that long.
Mr. Hubert. So if you got there at about 8:30 at night, then either you didn’t get any hitches for a long period of time, or else something else happened.