Mr. Crafard. Yes; it must have been. It was about 8 in the morning.

Mr. Hubert. 8 in the morning?

Mr. Crafard. About that, somewhere.

Mr. Hubert. Were you with anybody, do you know?

Mr. Crafard. I believe I was walking through a small town.

Mr. Hubert. What was your reaction to it?

Mr. Crafard. It was pretty hard to believe.

Mr. Hubert. Did you tell anybody about it?

Mr. Crafard. I think something was said to somebody I was riding with about it or something. Somebody picked me up shortly after I saw it, somebody I was riding with, and we had stopped in a cafe or something. I am pretty sure I discussed it with the person I was riding with.

Mr. Hubert. You are pretty sure now?