Mr. Crafard. Kalkaska, about 100, 120 miles.

Mr. Hubert. Is that a rural community?

Mr. Crafard. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. No cities along that route?

Mr. Crafard. Well, there is one about 60 miles from it.

Mr. Hubert. What is the name of it?

Mr. Crafard. Cadillac. It is about 60 miles from Traverse City.

Mr. Hubert. Did you have enough money at that time to get a bus ride in?

Mr. Crafard. No.

Mr. Hubert. You had about $4 or $5 left, didn’t you?