Mr. Sorrels. No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Hubert. Did you observe any system of identification of the people who were on the third floor?

Mr. Sorrels. As I recall it, when I first went down there I had no particular difficulty getting in, because most of the officers there know me, from my years of being in that city. But subsequent to that time I would have to identify myself many times. This was to uniformed police officers that were on duty. And I would have to show my commission book in order to get into Captain Fritz’ office, or else get into the executive offices there, where the chief of police and the deputy chief offices were located.

Mr. Hubert. Did you observe any officers posted at the entrances to the area, to the third floor area?

Mr. Sorrels. Yes.

Mr. Hubert. Where were they?

Mr. Sorrels. By the elevator, and then there were uniformed officers at Captain Fritz’ door.

Mr. Hubert. Did you observe them requiring identification by other persons? I mean you described how they required you to identify yourself. Did you notice whether they did so with other people, and if so, what did they do?

Mr. Sorrels. I cannot say that I did, because usually when I get through identifying myself, I either went to the executive suite, where the chief’s office was, or right direct to Captain Fritz’ office. But on a number of occasions, the officers that were on duty there, before I can get my commission book out, some of the newsmen or photographers there that knew me would say, “He is Sorrels of the Secret Service.” I, upon being recognized and identifying myself, would be admitted. Some of the officers on duty there of course after the second or third time they would recognize me, and I would have no difficulty getting in. But I cannot say that I saw anyone else being required to identify themselves, because I did not hang around the places where the officers were.

Mr. Hubert. Would you say that the security conditions that you just described were in effect for the entire period of November 22 through November 24—that is, on the third floor?