Mr. Sorrels. That’s right. It also had Venetian-type blinds on the doors, and the other part of his office was glass from the upper part.

Mr. Hubert. While you were up there at any time during the period we are talking about, did you ever observe anyone known to you to be a civilian who was not either a police officer or connected with the news media in some way?

Mr. Sorrels. No; I do not; well, I will take that back. You are talking about when Oswald was around?

Mr. Hubert. Well, yes. But also I want to broaden it to any time.

Mr. Sorrels. The reason I asked that question is that Jack Ruby’s sister was in his office with another lady after Ruby was in custody, and at that time they were in there with Mr. Jim Underwood from radio station KRLD who was trying to make arrangements for Ruby’s sister to get up in the jail to see him. But prior to that, I do not know, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Now, were you present at a meeting at which the news media were present and Oswald was brought into an assembly room, in which the news media were assembled?

Mr. Sorrels. I was present when Oswald was brought into what is called the lineup room, which is also the assembly room. They have the lineup section at one end of it. That was on the evening of November 22. At that time it was my request, because a witness who had been interviewed by me, and who had seen the person fire the third shot from the window of the Book Depository Building, I had gotten in touch with him through one of our agents, and he was brought down there for the specific purpose of being able to see Oswald, because when he was first interviewed by me he stated that he thought he could identify him.

Mr. Hubert. That was in fact, however, a true lineup for the purpose of identification.

Mr. Sorrels. I am sorry—I did not understand the question.

Mr. Hubert. I said that was a true lineup for the purpose of identification.