Mr. Sorrels. Not before this incident took place; no, sir.
Mr. Hubert. You did not even know he existed?
Mr. Sorrels. No, sir. As a matter of fact, when I first heard Oswald had been shot, I understood the name to be Jack Rubin, and in my first report to my headquarters office I gave them the name of Jack Rubin—R-u-b-i-n, an operator of a nightclub. That is the first information I got. I just misunderstood the pronunciation of the last word.
Mr. Hubert. I think I have already asked this question in a general way—that is to say, you have covered the area in a general way. But I think for the record I should make it more specific.
You have now come to know a man by the name of Jack Ruby, to the extent that you could recognize him, I suppose.
Mr. Sorrels. Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Can you tell us whether you saw him in or about the police department building at any time after the President was shot, and until Ruby shot Oswald?
Mr. Sorrels. I have no recollection of having seen a man whom I know now to be Jack Ruby before I saw him in the Dallas City Jail on the fifth floor.
Mr. Hubert. Now, we can pass, I think, for my purposes—and mind you, Mr. Stern might cover some of these areas again, but this is the way this is being handled.
You did see Oswald, I think, on Sunday morning, November 24?