Mr. Sorrels. I didn’t consider it so much as breaking his word as I would that he did not want to tell them one thing, or in other words, move him out without the press being aware of the fact—let’s put it that way. That was my impression.
Mr. Hubert. What time was it, about, do you know, that you made that suggestion?
Mr. Sorrels. That was pretty close to 11:15 in the morning, just a short time before they got ready to move him.
Mr. Hubert. You do not know, do you, whether he conveyed your thought to Chief Curry?
Mr. Sorrels. No; I do not. I doubt that he did, because Chief Curry had left Fritz’ office at that time, as I recall it.
Mr. Hubert. Do you remember about what time it was when the Oswald move began from Fritz’ office?
Mr. Sorrels. It was shortly after 11:15 in the morning, as I recall it. In other words——
Mr. Hubert. Did you go down with the party carrying him down?
Mr. Sorrels. No, sir; I did not. Inspector Kelley and I went to the office of Chief Batchelor, which is also on the third floor, and on the south side of the building, on the Commerce Street side, and we were observing the people across the street from the city hall, as apparently they had been moved over there by officers on duty down below. And we just saw several people over there that were apparently waiting for an opportunity to see them take the prisoner out.
Mr. Hubert. When you arrived at Chief Batchelor’s office, at the point you have just described, to wit, the windows looking out on Commerce Street, do you know whether Oswald had been shot?