Mr. Hubert. Now, do you recall a conversation with Chief Curry with respect to what you knew that Ruby had said?

Perhaps I can identify the conversation a bit more by saying to you that it had to do with a suggestion by you as to what the witnesses who were members of the police department might be called in the prosecution.

Mr. Sorrels. Oh, yes; I remember that.

Mr. Hubert. Can you tell us, first of all, when it was?

Mr. Sorrels. As I recall, it was after the trial of Ruby had started, or along about the time it was beginning to start. I contacted Chief Curry and told him——

Mr. Hubert. Is this by phone, or was it by personal interview?

Mr. Sorrels. No; as I recall it was by phone—that there were two uniformed police officers that were present when I talked to Ruby on the fifth floor of the city jail on the morning of November 24, and that I had not warned Ruby of his constitutional rights and did not know whether or not the statement that he had made to me would be admissible in a trial in the event that the district attorney wanted to use it.

But——

Mr. Hubert. Had you been at that time consulted by the district attorney with reference to your being a possible witness?

Mr. Sorrels. I do not recall that I had.