Mr. Hubert. What I am trying to get at, you see, is whether or not there were two calls.
Mr. Sorrels. I don’t recall that there were two calls. I don’t.
Mr. Hubert. And you are positive you spoke to Batchelor?
Mr. Sorrels. It seems that I remember talking to Chief Batchelor about it, because it seems that I can remember that he said, “I am sure that we can find out that information,” or words to that effect.
Mr. Hubert. Well, if there was only one call—that is to say, if you are doubtful about two, and you do remember definitely Batchelor, then the one call would have to be Batchelor, would it not?
Mr. Sorrels. That is correct; yes.
Mr. Smith. I think there is a lack of meeting of the minds here.
Mr. Hubert. Would you try to help me out? I would appreciate it.
Mr. Smith. Let me see if I can clarify this. Was there definitely a conversation with Curry about whether you would be able to testify because of your failure to warn Ruby of his constitutional rights?
Mr. Sorrels. I just cannot say positively that there was. I do know that I made a phone call for the specific purpose of informing them of the fact that these two uniformed police officers were there and could have heard the conversation that I had with Ruby, and as my memory serves me it seems that was Chief Batchelor. Now, I may have had conversations with Chief Curry. We have talked about this thing from many, many different angles from time to time.