Mr. Griffin. Yes.
Mr. Graves. Just a matter of simultaneous movement. You just move when you see something like that.
Mr. Griffin. Did you actually see the gun before you heard it—heard the shots fired?
Mr. Graves. Yes; in fact, that is the first thing I saw coming that way, and I just started after it, I guess, automatically, nothing else to do, that I could see.
Mr. Griffin. Did you see how the newsmen were spread out as you walked out of that hallway?
Mr. Graves. I saw how they weren’t spread out. I was under the impression there wouldn’t be any news media inside that rampway, that they would be behind that area over there, but they were in the way.
Mr. Griffin. How did you get that impression?
Mr. Graves. Well, Chief Curry told Captain Fritz that the security was taken care of, that there wouldn’t be nobody in that ramp. Anyway, that cameras would be over behind that rail of that ramp. So, what we expected to find was our officers along the side there, but we found newsmen inside that ramp, in fact, in the way of that car. Now, we—Captain Fritz sent Dhority and Brown and Beck on down to the basement in plenty of time to get that car up there for us, and when they got down there and run into mass confusion of pressmen, we almost backed over some of them to get up there.
Mr. Griffin. Now, after Fritz sent Dhority and Brown down, did they send word back up to Fritz’ office that everything was ready in the basement?
Mr. Graves. Somebody did. I believe Baker called—Lieutenant Baker called down from our office to check with the jail downstairs and see that everything was ready. Somebody gave them the word. I don’t know whether it was Lieutenant Wiggins or who told them that it was all right. Everything was in order.